Would women do better? I hear that since men cause the problems, women will rule better than men. Don't you agree?

You probably want to cast me as the evil old white male, the very aspect of the patriarchy, the cause of problems, the person representing the group that demands oppression of women - you pretty much wrote that.

And how do we deal with the never ending grievance. If you are spun up about something that happened in 1920, it brings up two things in my mind. My ancestors came from Europe, in the mid 1920s. Am I as a white male, responsible for something that happened before my family was even here?

And are you as concerned that at one time, you had to be a landowner to vote? While decrying the oppression of women, most men couldn't vote at one time either.

Some of my female relatives are posting angry posts about how women were horribly mistreated in Roman times. If you never give up your anger, and need to go back earlier and earlier in time to stir up the hatred, you only ensure a never ending sex wars. Miss me with 100 year old outrage bait.

Kinda like my ancestors fleeing European problems, some years after women could vote, it is still my responsibility because I have a penis.

What you have written so far seems to contradict that statement.

While you apparently have come to believe that Trump being elected is somehow an expression of men's desire to enter into non consensual sex with women, that shows a remarkable lack of understanding the reason he was elected. Despite voters giving the reasons they didn't vote for Harris/Walz.

And don't blame me - I voted Harris Walz. After the election curb stomping where the Democrats continued to be a minority in the house, lost the Senate, and continued to be on the losing end of the Supreme Court, a little introspection might be in order. But the transition to understanding why they are losing has been a bit rough. They understand that they have a real man problem, but aren't actually listening to those who are trying to tell them. You can not mandate your agenda if you aren't in office.

Andrew Tate is a creepy asshat. So why are young men listening to him at all? He fills a vacuum. Not in a good way, but wen a vacuum is created, you never know where it is going to go

Males have been told from a very early age they are inferior to women, and in many cases have been drugged into submission. Like my son's class in middle school where the teachers diagnosed every male child with ADHD. Fortunately I went to the Parent-Teacher conference where I was told he was ADHD. He was definitely not ADHD. But when I asked if they had examples, they said they didn't have any, but he was a big boy, and wanted to allay any problems. I said no. If my wife was there, he would have been damaged like so many other males - Yes, Ritalin damaged boy's brains. You can look that up.

My work on Campus was constantly dealing with threats of retribution. Our gender studies major sexual harassment counselor told us very specifically that anything a woman decides is sexual harassment and if the offended woman reports you to HR, you will be fired. She added that in either case, complimenting a woman was by definition, sexual harassment - even saying you liked the woman's earrings. I have no idea how that was sexual harassment, but it was the rules we men had to obey without exception. Ever wonder why young men are disappearing from college campuses - it's around 30 percent male now, 70 percent women.

But back to young men listening to Andrew Tate. People don't like to be continually browbeaten and told they are evil rapists by their very existence. It forms a vacuum.

So if you are in the hated group, and someone comes along to tell you that you are not evil and horrible, and that you have worth, you just might listen to them.

I'm not about to speak up for Andrew Tate, no way. He's toxic AF. But there are others who are just as hated by the far left like Jordan Peterson. He is hated because he brings a positive outlook to masculinity, and will interact with those who hate him. He's not always right, but he doesn't preach hate.

And then there is Joe Rogan. I hear Democrats complaining about Joe. They say they need a left leaning Joe Rogan podcast. They did have a Joe Rogan type at one time. His name? Joe Rogan - Joe even endorsed Bernie Sanders before being driven out of the Democrat's camp.

And there we have it - the need to insult. You take any criticism, and turn it into hatred of women. You illustrate the problem of the present moment. No possibility of an intelligent conversation, pull out your big weapon, and declare any disagreement as hatred of women. Have an excellent day my friend, Never allow a different viewpoint to sully your firm conviction. Peace out.

The Simpsons?

You are the making example I'm talking about. Allow me to rephrase. to your satisfaction. Most problems are caused by men. Will that be acceptable? It is not possible to have a conversation without the problems are laid at the foot of men.

And there is where the problem lies. One does not make a single statement that men are not responsible for all or most problems in the sexual apartheid that has developed without a strong reaction denying the statement.

Which of course begs the question - do we want to actually fix the problem? Ot do we just want to yell at men, and tell them they are evil? World without end, amen.

But there is no question that men at this point are largely avoiding women. In the workplace we communicate only to the extent needed to get the work done. Men avoid one on one meetings, and never with the door closed. Many even avoid riding in a car together with a female co-worker, flying together, or staying in the same hotel, even eating meals.

Contrast that with my situation in the past. When I travelled with a female co worker, we'd fly together, use the same rental car, she means, stay in the same hotels, and no one was bothered. Today - no thank you. When even a misunderstanding or an accidental compliment could wreck my life, a man can't be too careful out there.

Side note: in irony, a lot of female co workers enjoyed traveling with me. They felt protected. If someone was bothering them, I would step in. And I'm a rather formidable looking chap, and can inflect my voice pretty menacingly. This won't happen now.

Now imagine how that sexual apartheid must make a lot of women feel! When you are treated like a hand grenade with the pin pulled, when men give you monosyllabic answers, nothing more than work related conversations, but you can see the men enjoying themselves, making friends - that's got to be deflating, especially since women tend to be more social. Damn, that has to be kind of lonely.

As well - women in my group were upset that the Friday Happy hour get together went away. The men stopped going, and it wasn't much fun without them. But ethanol and men and women mixed became a non-starter. Note, the men later got together again by themselves at different places than the old place we went. Just kept quiet about it.

But that brings up the next issue. Now that fewer and fewer males will even approach a woman, a lot of women are unhappy about that as well - it's the same thing. Most women (hell most men) would like to find a loving relationship with a man. But at this point most of the men who will approach them are not good guys. Decent men have largely given up on relationships.

So if men passively avoid interactions with women, and no longer want to form a relationship with women, is that a bad thing? Women aren't getting harassed by these men. That should be a real win.

Finally, I'm always amused by the reactions - if a person dares to make any remark other than the mantra that all men are assholes The attack dogs com out.

I get called the brain dead "incel" pejorative just about every time. In irony, as an incel, I'm sexually active, and few women I know dislike me. If I want, I can get laid several times a week if I go out to a bar, be it a lady customer or waitress. That would probably piss off the wife though. 8^) But one thing is for certain, making statements without getting attacked and told you are completely wrong is hardly possible.

Even if a person actually wants to repair the present gender apartheid, as a male he cannot, because it is verboten to suggest that men are not the sole problem. And if a man has the temerity to speak.....

At some time, we all have to sit down and talk.

Just with names and addresses.

If the ladies want to gossip about men they were in situationships with, I've long advocated for in person commiseration with actual friends. Otherwise they are influenced by chaos brokers who enjoy the drama their chaos generates..

And from what I understand, a fair number of women tried to hook up with some of the so called "abusive men". They thought their pictures were hot.

Bad Boy syndrome is real - I know because I was one. Especially being in a rock band - you often get your choice of women.

I reposted the whole message so will give an overview.

Okay, we have a lot of people on Slashdot who will call a male an incel if he disagrees with a a woman or a man who blames all issues on men.

But perhaps it is time to look at this from a different perspective. If the left (and yes, it is largely the left) continuously calls out all men are rapists https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2F%40nikoknots%2F... https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnomas.org%2Fits-notallme... https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fholgerschueler.medium....

There are many more, the concept is that until no woman on earth ever suffers at the hands of a men , every single man on earth is as guilty as the man who harms her.

If a person agrees that all men are guilty of any crime committed by any women on earth, they need to watch Snapped, a show on the Oxygen channel about women who kill their husbands, parents, boyfriends, and/or children. True stories.

So perhaps it is time to put that incel insult to rest, because that also exactly means until no man suffers or is killed by a woman, until it is no woman, it is all women. To think otherwise is just an admission of a deep abiding hatred of all men. Put this BS to rest.

With that aside, rather than more man shaming and castigation, how does the Western World bring males back into the fold?

Because if you or anyone believes that more castigation and shaming will bring males eagerly back - they are a special kind of fool.

So how to go forward, because what the far left perspective and actions have done is create a group of young men who have abandoned the Democrats?

Now how this eventually victimizes women. With almost 50 percent of women in their childbearing years projected to be single by 2030, it is more foolhardiness to say and believe they do not and will never want children. The strong independent working woman who places her career over family can disappear overnight (I know - my wife did exactly that. A species that doesn't want children goes extinct in short order, and women that age can suddenly freak out about their biological clock when it collides with their biological imperative. Egg freezing among strong independent women is a real thing. If they didn't want children - why would they freeze their eggs for use in IVF and geriatric pregnancy?

So how to we allow these poor women to have children when the numbers show that there are no suitable men worthy of them? How do we get men to come back into the women's sphere when they are not interested?

And how do we deal with young men are starting to trend towards the right?

Many go these young men believe they have been cast out by the Democrats and the far left. There's the numbers game again. if half the population isn't at all interested in the other half, we cannot get mating parity.

And with the natural state of women being more liberal (in the original concept) than men, and at this point, demanding men at least as liberal as they are - there is a real problem.

How does one create a path forward, both in the relationship and political landscape?

Step 1 is perhaps to stop with the shaming and dehumanization of all men.

Step 2 is to come to a realization that men are not the cause of all problems, and that women can be wrong as well.

The whole concept of calling a man an incel if he offers any criticism of women is a real no-starter any more. As pointed out in here, it now means "asshole" If it means asshole, call him an asshole. But if you do that because he makes an apt criticism, well, it is hard for the shame to not be called an asshole as well.

Gotta work our way forward, the present Western World system is not working for viable population.

There isn't much to defend.

One of the unfortunate realities of the present situation is that any and all problems are without question, claimed to be the fault of men, and men only.

Which is to ask, how is it that the males of the species are troglodytes, while the females are perfection? This has been an increasing problem. a real elephant in the room the room to suggest that both sexes have responsibility.

Even Disney is trying to figure out how to get men to watch their movies after a couple decades of making movies that obviously demeaned men. In irony a lot of the articles still blame men as variety puts it, "Numerous studies show that Gen Z men in particular are a lonely, gaming-obsessed group who were hampered in their formative years by COVID-19 lockdowns — not the easiest segment to grasp."

that's not even wrong. But at least Disney has finally figured out that their movies just might actually need to appeal to men, stop treating them like stupid weak people. But they need to look at the actual problem, not continue blaming men.

While some will decide to call you an incel, like the waste of sperm AC below...

What the actual hell were they thinking - both the developers, and the women using the app? Easily identifiable, and noted that the women provided males ID's yet there is no concern. This has not one thing to do with involuntary celibacy, but a whole lot to do with people who are not terribly smart.

This was a gossip app, an attempt to reboot #metoo. And if you are identifiable in the app, and if the object of your scorn is identifiable, very little good can come out of it. It becomes the opposite of "safety".

Another problem is degree. If a man causes actual harm to a woman, quick reporting to LEO will result in a quick response.

But there are all different kinds of women, some who have sensible standards, to those who believe disagreement is misogyny, wanting to split the bill at restaurants is abuse. So just like #metoo, it has drifted. A man ghosting a woman, or leaving a situationship is cause to go to the phone and dish on him.

And just like the ladies on the Facebook page finding out that many of them are "dating" the same guy, it becomes awkward. Kind of like some of them finding out that the 80/20 rule actually exists. It is not surprising that the tall handsome pretty boy is enjoying sex with multiple women. Pretty boys have been raised in a sort of bubble that messes with their personality. Women might be smitten with them, but there is always another one right around the corner.

And then there are the bad boys. The ones who give women the "tingles". Side note: I'm speaking from experience there - when I was young, I was in a rock band, raced cars and motorcycles. Bad boy enough that the nosy mommies in my town put me on a list of who other mommies told their daughters to stay away from.

The idiots! It was like a Who's Who for many of their daughters. I'll note that while I had easy access to sex, I never mistreated any of the young ladies.

Ladies Please! If you really need to gossip about bad dating and relationship problems, confide and gossip within your friend group - actual in person friends, not the chaos broker friends on social media, and if someone actually harms you, get law enforcement involved pronto

Yah. To me, it seems like all 50 states need to have a blockable identification, and if the moral leaders in those states wish to keep whatever they want kept out, the sites can do just that. Since it is impossible to verify age under any circumstances, at all. The problem is solved by sites blocking the state.

Then if a member of that state works their way around the sensible solution - and they will, just as you note - the state can prosecute them under their state laws if they are caught looking at peen and vagene.

You win non-sequitur of the week. But since you raised such a critical matter we must address it as a teaching moment. While the old logo was problematic, with the enemy, an old white male on the logo, which is incredibly racist and sexist, and certainly a MAGA voter, just like all old white males are The new logo has been tested to not offered any of the marginalized groups.... /s

All that sarcasm aside, it is pretty clear the direction that Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Felss Masino is taking the company. And it is working out perfectly. Stocks are up over 1000 percent, and they are now considering going vegan.

Og geese... What allowed Hitler to rise to become the architect of the holocaust and his kicking the world into a war that claimed 70–85 million lives and put a temporary dent in the world's population was the punitive actions that countries like France enabled that punished the hell out of Germany, and Germany was doing kinda okay in the 1920's, getting loans from the USA (called the Dawes Plan) https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F... which propped up the Weimar Republic with the initial loan of some 800 Million Reichsmarks.

Rather than "create" Old Adolph, it almost averted the world catastrophe that the London plan, created, which was for Germany to pay 50 billion Reichsmarks (the original London schedule was 132 billion Reichsmarks).

When Germany defaulted, as was inevitable French and Belgian troops occupied the Ruhr, the home of Germanys Industrial region.

Not an American in sight. Which also played into old Adolph's grudges.

So until the world depression affected Americas ability to prop up the Weimar Republic, that's when the SHTF in Germany, which allowed Hitler and his circle of merry men to take over.

At least some countries learned something from what the intense punishment created.

So if Europeans - who I can't even get to admit there was an actual holocaust - want to blame something besides themselves, better check with France, Belgium, and the UK. We here in the USA tried to help Germany Post WW1. We definitely helped Rebuild West Germany and Japan after the curb stomping they had to get in order to surrender.

I think Europe is making the same mistake that some American progressives make: They have it in their heads that what every company should be producing more than anything else is jobs. It doesn't really occur to them that this is not and never was economically viable. Some physicists have been complaining about nothing useful coming out of CERN ever since 2012 (and it turns out that a plurality of them are Americans who are working over there on assignment from home) but they still want to build a bigger particle collider anyways, without much concern for whether it will yield anything useful, only just assuming it will.

And don't forget ITER, the latest version of "Fusion is right around the corner." As far as I can tell, its main purpose is to empty the world's supply of tritium.

In the end, so many Europeans seem to believe that their biggest enemy is the USA. Very strange Perhaps the USA should stop supporting NATO, allow Vlad Putin to establish the buffer states that is a core need for the old USSR, and then both Europe and the Russian Federation will have their problems solved. ;^)

tl;dr - If the EU thinks that America is the enemy - they might want to actually study history, not make shit up.

A little trouble with reading?

Allow me to make it as simple asw possible. America has always had problems, just like all countries

Europe however has a lot of people who brag about how wonderful Europe is, incredibly superior top the USA.

I asked you specifically if you were a Holocaust denier. You avoiding the question is telling us yes, you deny that the Holocaust ever happened. A person who accepts that it happened all over Europe would say yes. You said nothing at all. That tells us all we need to know.

Bruh! Paris has violence and civil unrest happening all the time. https://ancillary-proxy.atarimworker.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F...

Might want to walk your claim of safety back a bit.

For myself, it is a matter of our European brethren often being a combination of thinned skinned, and so insecure that they can take a shitfit over imperial measurements versus metric. There - I just did a double troll.

I'll just note that there are a number of Americans a bit surprised at that as well.

And there you have le difference. I understand that the US has at times done some shit. I don't like it, I'm ashamed of some of it, but I and a large majority of us own our mistakes.

So yeah, I cringe that we put some Japanese origin citizens in camps during WW2..... But. we. fed. them. Cannot even get our Eurobethern to admit what they have done.

When I think of European sophistication, I always think of how they put it on display at futbol ( what is actually soccer) games.

Extremely deep seated insecurity. Perhaps it isn't like that, but it just so happens to look exactly like that. So it is almost certainly that.

For my own part, I can enjoy about a week in places like NYC, but then it creeps me out. Change of scenery I suppose. Would not live there. But my goodness, the European contingent in here suffers from some pretty severe insecurities, some even deny it is a problem at all.

But what happened to the center of actual progress in science and technology innovation that used to be connected with Europe?

Today, they wait at the finish line for the winners, and then levy fines on them.

The only good part of the European situation is it makes for fun trolling.